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Tools of the Trade => Archery => Topic started by: Hunt Master on September 10, 2014, 08:34:45 AM

Title: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 08:34:45 AM
How far is too far of a bow shot for you? We all have our limit, either because of skill or ethics, that we live by. Please vote and then explain.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
My soft limit is 30 yards but I will take a shot up to 40 if the conditions are just right and I feel I have to make an attempt at a shot.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 08:49:37 AM
The longest shot I have ever taken was 40 yards on a turkey with my crossbow.   

Thirty and under are more in my comfort zone (with any type of bow) unless conditions are just right.  I know I can make the shot at long distances but game is unpredictable and too much can happen before that arrow gets there.  I've passed on more game than I have taken because they were just outside of my comfort zone.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 12:33:57 PM
It depends on a lot of things such as wind speed, the demeaner of the deer, how much brush is in the way, how much light is available, etc.  I can shoot pretty well out to 50yds but I'm not comfortable shooting a deer at that range.  They move too much from when the bow goes off until the arrow arrives.  I wouldn't hesitate to take a 50 yd clean shot at an Elk or other slower moving animal.  But not a whitetail.  My general max distance is 35 yds or so.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
I have a 30 yard pin so that is my shot I have shot 80yards in field tournament ant that was to far     --7-8-9
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 03:26:01 PM
I feel pretty confident out to 40 yards, but prefer 20 yard shots. %^$^
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 05:22:00 PM
under idea conditions I will shoot a 40 yarder. that being said, I've only done it once and was successful. actually, I haven't taken a 40 yard rifle shot for years. I like it up close and personal. gets the heart pumping
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 05:42:49 PM
Thirty yards is about it for me , most would be under 30 yards because of trees in the way . 
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 06:54:49 PM
I have shot lots over the years..with my old compound bow I never shot over thirty yards...my old excaliber... 35 max but never shot one over thirty...the new matrix 380 is so far dead on at 50 yards...haven,t tried farther yet but still keep it under forty when I start hunting with it...way to many variables to screw you up in a split second
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 07:57:00 PM
anything over 30 yards is to far with a bow for me, just do not practice enough at longer ranges to feel confidant shooting at over 30 yards

Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 08:21:45 PM
Similar to Zos' response - I have a single pin, generally zeroed at either 20 or 25 yards when I'm hunting, and my current setup requires very little holdover/under at anything out to that level.  Simply no need to go farther where I am typically bowhunting, and I'm not that confident that I could control all of the variables sufficiently if I had to go farther, although I know many people do it successfully.  Have only had one deer so far that wasn't a pass-thru, but still watched him drop less than 50 yds. from shot - - I assume I have some added margin to stretch my range, but not feeling a great need to take the risk.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 10, 2014, 09:05:34 PM
40yds is my max @ this point.  I have a 5 pin sight but the 2 lower pins have never been aimed @ a target.  Maybe someday I will stretch it out some but from where I hunt I don't have a shot past 30yds. 
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 11, 2014, 11:50:58 AM
25 yards is max that I will and have shot since late 60's.  Get in a habit from shooting a recurve and it stuck with me.  Now with modern equipment still it's 25 yards. Hopefully buying a Xbow this year, I might stretch that out to 30 yards, but no further.  Old habits die hard.  Shoot targets well out to 50 yards, but targets don't move. 
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 11, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Like many, my max is 35-40 yards and I practice quite a bit. When I am getting ready for an elk hunt I do shoot out to 50 but that is a much bigger target. Most of my shots have been 15-25 yards mostly because of the ground cover I hunt in.  In order for you to shoot much more than 30 yards at a deer, you have to put significant time into practicing so you can make an ethical shot.
Rick (Fox)
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 11, 2014, 06:47:39 PM
I shoot a Barnett Crossbow, so I can go out to 60 pretty easy.. IF.... No wind, Nothing in the path, and low humidity, and High pressure. I practice at 60, 50, 40 , 30 just because I shoot a 365 fps crossbow with a Leopold scope. I have personally never shot  a deer that far, but I took a doe last year at 45 yards and my arrow was still on a line. I practice the longer ranges, or I wouldnt consider it.. Nor would I try it with a compound bow, that I retired from a shoulder surgery.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 11, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Would certainly agree that a Xbow extends the range a fair amount.  I just bought mine last year, haven't taken a deer with it yet.  Practicing out to 40 yards it's incredibly accurate - but boy it still seems like the time from trigger to target is pretty long as you start going beyond 30-35 yards, I'm going to limit myself to 30 until I get some experience with shots at live targets under my belt. 
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 11, 2014, 07:50:42 PM
my bow sends arrows out faster than an ol'yeller dog runnin' wid it's tail afire...even at the speeds we shoot kinetic energy drops off right quick after 30+ yards...besides I like to get right real close to them...closer they are the less time they got to do something silly, like move....

TT @--0--0107
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 12, 2014, 08:25:32 AM
At one time before I had two neck surgeries I felt comfortable shooting 40 to 50 yards, now days I say 30.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 12, 2014, 09:17:13 AM
Given the right opportunity and variables are pretty reasonable, I will shoot out to 80 yards with my compound.  I regularly practice out to 100 with it so I am comfortable at those ranges. I have taken 100 yards shots at antelope before but in my whitetail setup, the farthest I could shoot would be 60, I also am using a 7 pin sight as well and my top pin is 20 yards, my bow is actually pretty flat shooting out to 40 so for the antelope hunt i set the pins for 40-100
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 16, 2014, 11:05:27 AM
All depends on the circumstances and terrain.  If conditions are perfect! No wind, obstructions, the game is not spooked and positioned properly... I would consider taking a 50yd shoot.  If less than ideal conditions then the shot would have to be closer.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 17, 2014, 06:19:11 PM
I have shot at 40 once but prefer 30 or less.  I shoot a lower poundage so I don't want to push it with penetration any farther plus my confidence is just not there beyond 40.

Web
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 17, 2014, 07:31:28 PM
I know most crossbows are capable of a bit more but the sound alone will get a deer moving really quick...I know hitting them further out is possible but I watched my Bil shoot at a good buck years ago that had stopped to smell the ground...he took the shot at about 40-45 yards and I watched that buck pull back and jump almost backwards and bolt in jumps further than I have ever seen...found the arrow..no blood and never saw that buck again....they are very fast....I knew then that my comfort zone was going to be less than that...20-25 is perfect for me
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 17, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
2 years ago I killed a doe at 80 yds.  I shoot a single pin HHA with the computer figured yardage stickers.  It took quite a bit of practice to figure the sticker I needed but it payed off.
My favorite yardage is 30.  But I won't hesitate out to 50.

fp19
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 18, 2014, 07:56:25 AM
Been awhile since I been here.  I have shot a turkey at 51 yards, a fox at 43 and longest deer was 39.  I would go to 50 on a deer because I practice out to 70 and have pins out to 60.  70 I just hold the 60 pin high.  Now a 50 yard shot would require a lot of things to be just perfect for me.  I want no wind and open lane.  I have a couple stands that I could go this far and all are on the edge of a field.  Anything in the woods the longest shots I have are 35 and maybe 40.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on September 24, 2014, 05:02:53 PM
40 yds for deer, 60 for elk
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on January 29, 2015, 01:23:53 PM
20-30 comfortably.
I stay away from the trigger when it gets over 40.   %^$^
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on August 26, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
40 was my longest on a waking deer. It went 5 yards after I hit her. Most of my shots, ~90%, are under 20
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on October 20, 2015, 09:45:40 AM
My self imposed limit is 40 yards. It would have to be ideal conditions though for me to take that shot. Your shot could be off by 6" or more if the deer decides to take a couple of steps at the wrong time.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on October 20, 2015, 11:11:30 AM
I prefer my deer to be 20 yards or less.  I'm comfortable to 30 yards if they're calm and standing still.  I could extend it to 40 if everything is absolutely perfect, which rarely happens.  I have pins to 60 yards but don't practice as much as I used to, so the bottom 2 pins are for having fun in practice.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on October 21, 2015, 07:18:19 AM
I feel very confident out to 40 with my PSE Decree - however, in the 40 years that I have bowhunted deer I never have had that opportunity, almost all shots have been 20 or less. I did a caribou hunt a few years back in Labrador and even then was set to shoot 40+ if needed - turned out to be 19 yards, Bears taken over bait have been well under 20. I took a hybrid Red Stag/Elk cross in Canada at just 21 yards.
In the years that I have bowhunted I have changed my set up to one pin - anything from the base of my treestand out to 30 is well within my accuracy range.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on October 23, 2015, 08:21:41 AM
I guess call me the unethical one...  I shoot to 60 everyday... as in EVERYDAY. I killed a six point this weekend at 52 yards according to the range finder. Hit him exactly where it needed to be and he didn't run 50 yards and piled up. But in saying that, there was zero wind and the deer was calm and eating acorns and didn't know I was anywhere to be seen. I didn't have to stop the deer either, so in saying that, the deer was not alerted or nervous or anything. That's ideal conditions and I won't take a shot like that any other time. If it's windy or getting darker, or if the deer seems a little "geeked" out to me I won't shoot past 35. The biggest deal is not to get in a hurry, settle the pin, and if your practice is consistent there shouldn't be any issue with shooting deer at any of your practice ranges. My thing is, why practice at 40+ yards if you're never going to take a shot over 35? If that was the case for me, I would be practicing every which way I could from 35 in for those conditions and never worry about a shot over that if I wasn't ever going to take it.
Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on October 27, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
I will shoot without hesitation between 20-35 yards and 45 if the wind is less than 5 mph with a Mission Dagger Crossbow.  Still saving up for the No-Cam.

I shot a doe at 21 yards last year, buck last night at 26 yards both double-lunged.        %^$^

Title: Re: How far is too far?
Post by: [Blocked] on January 04, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
I practice 45yds but keep my personal shot limit to 30yds. This doesn't mean I'm not capable or confident in shooting 45yd.