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Author Topic: Contender Pistol  (Read 151 times)

Offline Madgomer

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Contender Pistol
« on: January 14, 2021, 10:13:40 AM »
Looking for some advice here from the Contender pistol fans.  Can't recall if I've posted before on this or not, but last year I picked up my first Contender frame, a G2 from Haus of Arms with a trigger job and Bellm pin.  It came with the black (rubber?) grip and forearm.  I picked up a 10" .44 mag barrel in a Gunbroker auction.  It is a genuine TC barrel, doesn't look like it's seen much use.  Iron sights (getting to be a problem for these eyes).  I've shot all sorts of different loads through this thing, handloads and factory, and have had a devil of a time getting consistent results.  As I dug in deeper, I see that the chamber on that barrel is insanely deep for a .44 mag.  It's actually so deep that I believe it will chamber a .445 Supermag cartridge (3/8" longer than a .44 mag).  I've found that a 300 grain XTP bullet is long enough that the bullet is just coming into the lead chamfer of the rifling as the back end leaves the case mouth.  It isn't possible obviously to build a round that long in a .44 mag case, but I went ahead and build some up with the 300 gr XTP (previously had been using 200 - 250 grain pills loaded to normal .44 mag COL) and set them so the crimp was in the second cannelure, or about .15" longer than a typical .44 mag COL.  In doing this I interpolated load data for both the .44 mag and .445 Supermag to bump up the powder charge slightly and stay within pressure limits.  I did a quick check the other day with three rounds, and they're very consistent with no signs of excessive pressure and chrony results that were as expected for that powder charge and bullet combo.  Loaded up 10 more and hope to sit down with them when the weather clears to get it zeroed and hopefully confirm that this is the improvement I am looking for.

Have any of you guys seen Contender barrels like this with such ridiculously deep chambers?  Unfortunately the guy I bought it from got it from an estate with zero history.  It very well may have been rechambered to .445 Supermag but there are no external markings to indicate that.  I may go ahead and pick up some Supermag brass and load a few rounds for it, from the reading I've done the G2 frame is good for it staying within book limits of course.  The recent test rounds aren't bad at all on recoil (only 1080 fps) but some of my other handloads are brutal to shoot, even though they're within book limits for both revolver and Contender pistol per my Hornady book. 
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Contender Pistol
« on: January 14, 2021, 10:13:40 AM »
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2021, 10:55:25 AM »
There is a T/C Shooters / group on facebook that may be able to answer your question . ##$%#1118
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Offline Madgomer

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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2021, 11:03:44 AM »
Yeah, I'm actually on several of those groups on MeWe Sundowner - - nobody has had anything conclusive, but general support for the direction I'm heading.  I'm hoping Dutch chimes in on this, the project has got me thinking about bullet jump.  My general approach has been to minimize jump to the rifling on the rifles I load for, but I've been thinking about that purely from the perspective of the bullet as seated.  Is it possible that the jump isn't all that critical as long as the bullet engages the rifling before the back end comes out of the case?  That's kind of where I'm at with this Contender right now.  Maybe it's such that I'm seeing good gains with a relatively slow velocity and it becomes more critical at higher velocities that I get out of my rifles?  Just don't know, but at least glad to have this thing shooting better.
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2021, 01:43:36 PM »
I have not noticed that with my contender but i will have to check the .44mag now to see.

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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2021, 05:06:19 PM »
i have a older contender so no help here
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2021, 09:17:07 AM »
Have you tried sending BO or Dutch a PM? I'm not sure if BO gave up on us or not, haven't seen him on here in a long while.
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2021, 11:22:03 AM »
I have not Gutshot, but may give that a try.  Seems like I PM'd Bo many months ago to see if I could get his contact info but never saw a response.  I know Dutch is also on FB so I can take a crack at him from two directions.
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2021, 10:16:34 AM »
I have not Gutshot, but may give that a try.  Seems like I PM'd Bo many months ago to see if I could get his contact info but never saw a response.  I know Dutch is also on FB so I can take a crack at him from two directions.

i have dutch's phone number if you want it
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2021, 01:27:34 PM »
I have not Gutshot, but may give that a try.  Seems like I PM'd Bo many months ago to see if I could get his contact info but never saw a response.  I know Dutch is also on FB so I can take a crack at him from two directions.

i have dutch's phone number if you want it
Dave - if you think he'd be OK with you sharing it, message it to me.  Thanks!
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2021, 07:30:45 PM »
i will ask him and get back to you
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2021, 08:29:15 AM »
First: I don't mind if anyone PM's my number to any TH member. I have set up my phone to restrict unwanted calls. Send a text first and I'll return the call. However I have very little service in the house so I'll have to go outside or wait until I have enough service.

Second: I have not even been able to get Bo to answer his phone or return my calls. I'm a little concerned. I'll give split toe a call later today to find out.
Third: I've had no personnel experience with TC's. But it sounds like your on the right track Mag. Just watch for pressure signs.

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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2021, 09:43:25 AM »
Hey Dutch - great to hear from you and thanks for the feedback.  Please let us know if you hear anything from Bo.
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2021, 08:32:17 PM »
I sent Bo a pm a while back and got no reply. I do have his snail mail address, so maybe I'll send him a postcard.
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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2021, 01:12:24 PM »
First: I don't mind if anyone PM's my number to any TH member. I have set up my phone to restrict unwanted calls. Send a text first and I'll return the call. However I have very little service in the house so I'll have to go outside or wait until I have enough service.

Second: I have not even been able to get Bo to answer his phone or return my calls. I'm a little concerned. I'll give split toe a call later today to find out.
Third: I've had no personnel experience with TC's. But it sounds like your on the right track Mag. Just watch for pressure signs.

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Re: Contender Pistol
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2021, 03:01:53 PM »
Hi Mad hope all is well.  Have you tried to contact TC directly.  I know (from talking to Bo) various manufactures have great customer service.   
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