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Author Topic: Trouble With Scope(s)  (Read 3044 times)

Offline Bearclaw

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Trouble With Scope(s)
« on: September 28, 2019, 07:07:53 PM »
The buck I killed last week had a semi high hit but still did the job. I figured it was me in the moment. I've noticed when I discharge an arrow after hunting it seems to be a bit gh as well. So I went to check the scope and sight in today. It was shooting high and to the left consistently. It was spot on last time a did this. I tried to make adjustments for both elevation and windage and no matter what I did, the point of impact would not change. I even tried to crank it excessive just to see if it would move and still nothing. This is a TruGlo scope. So I take that off and put on the scope that originally came with the Barnett Brotherhood crossbow. It is shooting around 5-6 inches to the right. So I try to make the adjustments and again, nothing moves!  Just like the other one. Not sure why I took the Barnett scope, think I just wanted to try and upgrade but I thought it was shooting well. Any thoughts? Two bad scopes? I am perplexed and frustrated right now. Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2019, 07:19:51 PM »
BC, I had problems with a Bushnell scope that didn't seem to hold the settings.   I would try to chech it out, and it would be off.  I had to sight it in a number of times, and yet when I went hunting with it, my shots would be off enough that I only wounded the deer.  I had it on a Rem 870 12 ga, shooting slugs.  The scope held zero just fine for a few years, then started screwing up. When I returned to the factory for repair or replacement, they told me it was over centered, what ever that means.  I sort of lost faith on the scope, but now is on my Axis 223.  So fart, it has held zero just fine.
I would recommend you turn one knob all the way to the right, then the left, counting the number of clicks or tick marks. Then, move the setting back half the number of clicks or tick marks.  Then, repeat the procedure with the other knob.  That should "center" the adjustments.  Now you can proceed to sight it in the usual way.  Let us know if this helps.  If it doesn't help, my guess is the next step is to contact Truglow, and Barnett.
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Offline Bearclaw

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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2019, 07:28:52 PM »
Thanks! I will give that a try and let you know what happens!
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2019, 08:48:10 PM »
One other thing to checkout is the rail that the scope sets on most are lose to start with  i tightened mine when I put on a new scope and after some shooting I noticed it had loosened up again .  ##$%#1118
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Offline Bearclaw

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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2019, 08:57:19 PM »
I will also double check as well!
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2019, 07:28:06 AM »
Arrow rest moved or loose parts?
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Offline Bearclaw

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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2019, 08:33:04 AM »
Noticed when taking the existing scope off the back two scres holding it to the rail were looses> Crossbow issue!
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2019, 08:54:02 AM »
Noticed when taking the existing scope off the back two scres holding it to the rail were looses> Crossbow issue!
The rail is your problem...use gun tight on the screws and let set over night. Then remount your scope using clear polish on the screws and give it a try. If you do upgrade your scope I recommend a Hawke crossbow scope.
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Offline Bearclaw

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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2019, 02:29:54 PM »
Michigan Louie, I reset the clicks on both scopes. I left the Barnett scope on and went and tried it at short range. Consistent groups off center. Made some adjustments and the poi actually moved! I went a little further and of course, the poi was different but made some adjustments and the poi came back in. I prefer the TruGlo scope so I switched them out, hoping I would have the same success as the Barnett scope. And I did. I am shooting with straight field tips for now at 23 yards and dead on. Had to make some adjustments along the way as I moved the bag out further. I have field points from NAP (I shoot the NAP Maxx) that are not the normal looking field points but shoot the same aerodynamics as the machanicals. I will try them later or tomorrow and see how they line up. Might need to make some minor adjustments but hopefully I am back in business. Thanks for the help! I will keep  you posted!
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2019, 08:28:32 AM »
It sounds like you may have corrected the issue, stay on top of it. You may want to check the zero at least the evening before you plan the next hunt just to verify. Good luck and I hope you have no further issues.
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2019, 08:55:30 AM »
Sounds like a plan, thanks everyone!
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2019, 03:21:06 PM »
Glad to hear it's working well for you, BC.
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Re: Trouble With Scope(s)
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2020, 07:41:18 AM »
Once while on the first Safari, had my Nosler TGR 48, in 300 WSM topped with a Zeiss Conquest with the 800 Yard RapidZ reticule....I had shot a Wart Hog at 52 yards, 45 degrees down (aim low) and an Impala at 270 yards with it, then I shot at a Waterbuck and missed at 150 yards, how do you miss a Waterbuck at 150 yards who is a big as an Elk....but I missed and the guy that I was with said that it was the scope, but I was not convinced that is was just the scope because 2 weeks earlier after year long (since January of that year) I had been shooting this rifle weekly and all of a sudden it started shooting high at 200 yard so much that the third shot was off paper!!

I put down the Nosler and picked up the old Sauer 200 in the 30-06 configuration...and was using a 180 gn Barnes TSX bullet in my hand loads....regardless of what my buddy was saying that it was the scope on the Nosler, I had faith in the old Sauer 200....the guide suggested that I bring over as a back up a 30-06 because you can get ammo anywhere with it....from the way to his place we stopped at a convenience store (that is what I would call it) and they did have sold old 06 ammo on the shelf, it was Remington....So I picked up the old Sauer 200 in 30-06 and finished the Safari and the old 06 brought home 4 of the 6 citters that the first safari yielded....

After getting home I contacted Nosler in Bend, OR and left a message that I needed to talk to some one about one of their TG Model 48 Rifles that had fail in the field. Within the day got a call back from Nosler and they wanted me to send it back to them.....A month got the a letter back from Nosler, they had put a new stock on it and told me in a letter that the supplied screws were the wrong ones, they should have installed the longer screws on the back of the Picatinny rail but installed the short one instead, it was their fault and they apologized for it....still have that letter from them....they had put the longer screws in the back and they blamed a technician for the mistake. Along with the new stock and the picatinny rail screws had been replaced with the proper ones and have been loctite down....

Today the Nosler shoots the same 7/8" groups at 200 yards as it did when I went over on Safari in 2010...wow that was 10 years ago....sometimes the littlest things can go wrong with the accuracy of the rifle.....

I was watching a show on TV and saw that they were using a Sig-Sauer scope along with their BDX system on a crossbow....he was at a range on the bench. Did anybody seen it? But he was saying that one you range it then it automatically feeds into the scope and the dot adjusts for the distance....good idea....
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