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Author Topic: Preferred Rifle Primer?  (Read 534 times)

Offline BoBallistic

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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2019, 07:21:48 PM »
Just last year, had my first primer that did not go off!!! Since the early to mid 70's had shot thousands and thousands of rounds with the first non-fire primer just happening last year. No complaints from me at all....

You can tell the quality of the primers, powder, bullets and brass that is made right here in the good old USA!!!

 
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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2019, 07:06:16 AM »
Bo I found that out after I fired a 209 primer in my Encore to foul the barrel before I go hunting with it .  @--0--0104
I did that in my basement on my smokepole the night before a hunt a few years ago, the wife came scrambling downstairs convinced I just shot myself.  @--0--0116
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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2019, 07:07:36 AM »
I have been reloading since the  70's too. I've tried lots of different primers but it seems like Remington and Winchester are what I use most often. The only time I use Bench Rest primers is in my XP100s and that is the 7 1/2 Rem BR. I have never had a primer that didn't fire. If you are trying to shoot the smallest group possible then it is important to try several different primers.
I have seen a lot of.223 recipes with guys swearing by the Rem 7.5 primer, will probably need to try some in addition to the BR from CCI.  May try the Winchester too based on feedback from you guys. 

Thanks all, this is exactly the kind of input I needed!
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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2019, 07:26:17 AM »
Madgomer - Did she have a smile on her face when she was coming down the steps?  --099-780

I do load slow and low, not like Dutch who has a need for speed!! But, I am a started with 85% load density for starters and load down...it just me and my methodology....been doing this for years and years....but maybe I need to look at the list again (Primer Burn Rates)....I like Sierra, Nosler, Barnes and Berger Bullets (most of my inventory) a lot with Hornady, Speer, and a few others thrown in for good measure, along with Lapua, Norma, Nosler and a few Hornady Match 308 brass. For the Powder, think that they all are good and you got to try three of four different types or loads just to find the right one or two or even three that is suitable for the accuracy you are seeking, for me that is a 1/2 inch or better before. I think that over the years I have gone from 2" group down to an 1 down to 3/4" and not it stands at 1/2" for a 3 shot groups, but believe me, If one of my favorites 308's shoots a 3/4" or an 1" groups like my 700 LTR does then that is OK with me...LOL....

But Primers can make a difference in your accuracy and performance, back in the 80's I was experimenting all the time with new loads which include different primers than my standard CCI-BR2, but as I got deeper into my career I sort of got down to one or two primers that I chose from and when I attended Bench Rest Matches just to watch or as a volunteer I notice things that these "nuts" were doing. The more I thought about what these guys with their OCD's started making sense to me and then I became one of the "Nut Cases". You certainly can learn more buy watching and listening, because these guys don't share their secrets with anybody, not even their wives...LOL...so now I know that primers do make a difference to your load, it can make it or break it, it can go from 1/2" groups to over 2" groups.....I know because I have been there....

So glad to see everybody has an favorite primer they use and glad I found that old time chart, I got from a the reloading manual (saw the same list on another website)....     
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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2019, 01:04:08 PM »
Madgomer - Did she have a smile on her face when she was coming down the steps?  --099-780


Come on now Bo, that's kinda harsh don't you think??  (Come to think of it though, she did seem somewhat dejected when she found me upright and smiling)
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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2019, 05:13:00 PM »
Madgomer - Did she have a smile on her face when she was coming down the steps?  --099-780


Come on now Bo, that's kinda harsh don't you think??  (Come to think of it though, she did seem somewhat dejected when she found me upright and smiling)
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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2019, 07:42:33 PM »
Yeah Yari, but just cuz all the other kids are doing it, doesn't make it right!!!!

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Re: Preferred Rifle Primer?
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2019, 02:04:00 AM »
The Primer that did not go off last year was my first hand load that did not fire, Had two other times that the primer failed me and both were on a deer!!! the first time it was a absolute monster in 1970 and the second time, it was a 9 pointer checking his scrape line...pulled the trigger on him 4 times with two of them that went off....what I found out that it was not the primer but it was me!!

ME causing the round not to go off, because at that time I had just got to my first Nuclear plant in Florida and worked plenty of OT trying to save, save and save...and ignored the fact that I had forget that I had left the firing pin cocked for over a year and when I tried to pulled the trigger on it on a deer, it did not go off! After the 3rd and 4th shot went off, I did some investigation into why the first two rounds did not fire.....then I realized by looking at the primers under the magnifying glass that each time I pulled the trigger the firing pin went deeper into the primer and it finally went off on the 3rd and 4th rounds...the deer went down in its tracks on the 4th shot, about an inch from the 3rd shot....

Its not always the primers fault, sometimes it is the shooters (Me) fault....so because of that one experience, I will either leave my bolts open or make sure that the firing pin in not in tension when I put them up at the end of the season. But by today's standards (and mine), there is no off season for me.....
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