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Author Topic: 12 g Shell Length  (Read 285 times)

Offline CarrieZ

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12 g Shell Length
« on: February 25, 2019, 10:34:53 AM »
Hey guys! I probably have what is a very newby stupid question. I'm way smarter about bows than I am firearms, so I figured I'd ask my friends.

I have a slug gun that I'm looking to buy a new barrel for so I can convert it to 12 gauge shotgun.

Over the years ammunition companies have sent me shells to use or try. So I have a bit of a collection going.

Of the 12 gauge, some say 3", some say 2 3/4".

My question is if I get a barrel, how do I know what length will work best? I don't want to jam it up.

I've honestly never really paid attention to the length of my 20 gauge shotshells. So I just want to make sure I buy the right barrel.

Will it matter? As long as the 3-inch fit will the other ones as well?
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 01:02:03 PM »
A barrel that will take 3" shells will also take the 2-3/4" shells, barrel length is a matter of choice just like chokes. Whatever you chose in a barrel, I would make sure that it will accept multiple chokes. The chamber determines the shell lengths you can use. Longer chambers will accept shorter shells. Good Luck
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2019, 01:23:59 PM »
like gut said. especially when it comes to chokes. screw in choke tubes make your gun more versatile

IMO, get the same size barrel(meaning 2 3/4", 3" or 3 1/2") for your bird shot as you have for your slug barrel. that will eliminate any confusion. if you have a barrel that takes 3 1/2" shells, you can shoot the smaller loads out of it. you can always shoot shorter shells, but never shoot bigger shells than the barrel calls for

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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2019, 01:28:38 PM »
Carrie, in addition to Gutshots fine advice, I want to ask you to clarify what you're planning to do.  Are you wanting to take a 20 gauge slug gun and put a 12 gauge barrel on it for shotshells?  If so, there will be additional homework required to make sure the receiver and magazine tube are compatible - I suspect most will not be.  I doubt that's what you're doing, but wanted to confirm.
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 06:58:31 AM »
Carrie, in addition to Gutshots fine advice, I want to ask you to clarify what you're planning to do.  Are you wanting to take a 20 gauge slug gun and put a 12 gauge barrel on it for shotshells?  If so, there will be additional homework required to make sure the receiver and magazine tube are compatible - I suspect most will not be.  I doubt that's what you're doing, but wanted to confirm.

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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2019, 03:32:57 PM »
Hi all, sorry for the delay in responding, i wasn't getting notifications about replies and then had trouble logging in.

To clarify I want to convert the slug gun into a turkey hunting gun. A friend said I could just get a new barrel instead of purchasing a whole new gun.

I don't want to use it for slugs at all ever again. I only bought the gun because I had an IL shotgun season deer hunting opportunity. But at $350 for a license I doubt I'll ever go back. So I thought I'd convert it into a 12 g shotgun for turkeys. I currently use a 20 g but thought it'd be cheaper to convert this gun instead of buying a new one.

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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2019, 04:21:09 PM »
got it. it's easy to switch barrels. just make sure if your slug gun is a 3" that the new barrel is a 3". you can always choose to shoot a shorter shell, but never shoot a longer shell. if you shoot a longer shell, it will fit on the way in but not after it is fired. sad to say I did this once while using 2 different guns w/ different length shells on a goose/sharptail hunt. it was a bugger to remove the jammed shell

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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2019, 08:02:57 PM »
Hey Carrie - welcome back!  In addition to Yari's feedback, the other thing to consider is the stock/cheekpiece height.  If by chance you're starting out with a slug gun that has a high cheekpiece for shooting with a scope, and you're only planning to shoot turkeys with a vent rib barrel & beads, you might find it a little weird to get your eyeball aligned in the right spot.  If it's a standard stock you probably won't have any issue, and everyone's head is shaped a little different so even with a high cheekpiece it may not be a problem for you - just something to think about as you're getting it set up.  If nothing else you could probably clamp a red dot sight on either the receiver or vent rib to have a similar sighting plane as a scoped slug gun.  Enjoy - turkey season is upon us soon!
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2019, 08:16:47 PM »
ok question what kind of gun it the deer gun and what gauge is it
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2019, 09:08:52 AM »
Assuming the slug gun is a 12g it should be an easy swap.depending on t model and barrel availability.

You cannot convert a 20g to a 12G or vise versa (tbere are some exceptions but those are rare and apy to specific competition clays.)

As was stated, you can use a shorter shell then the gun is chambered for but not longer.

A 3.5" chamber will handle 3.5" and less
A 3.0" chamber will handle 3.0" and less
A 2.75" chaber will handle 2.75" and less.

Also if you put a barrel chambered for 3" on a receiver designed for 2.75", you will be limited to the receiver capacity of 2.75".

I see very few guns today with only 2.75" chambers most are 3.0" and many in the turkey/waterfowl world are 3.5".  These work awesome but they will beat you up quick.

Most modern barrels are also drilled and tapped for choke tubes.  Most barrels can be retrofitted but it will cost upwards of $75-$150 for the service or around $250 for the tools to do it yourself (not including choke tubes). Its not hard to do but pricy for the tools unless you are doing several barrels..
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2019, 08:58:42 PM »
I have a old Winchester 1200 which is chambered only 2 3/4" but it is 50 years old .  ##$%#1118
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2019, 09:10:30 PM »
I have a old Winchester 1200 which is chambered only 2 3/4" but it is 50 years old .  ##$%#1118
Dang, that makes me feel old - I remember when the 1200 came out!
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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2019, 10:51:08 AM »
I have a old Winchester 1200 which is chambered only 2 3/4" but it is 50 years old .  ##$%#1118
Dang, that makes me feel old - I remember when the 1200 came out!

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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2019, 11:47:08 AM »
I have a old Winchester 1200 which is chambered only 2 3/4" but it is 50 years old .  ##$%#1118
Dang, that makes me feel old - I remember when the 1200 came out!

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Re: 12 g Shell Length
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2019, 02:43:45 PM »
I have a old Winchester 1200 which is chambered only 2 3/4" but it is 50 years old .  ##$%#1118
Dang, that makes me feel old - I remember when the 1200 came out!

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