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very fast 22 caliber
« on: February 17, 2019, 04:39:30 PM »
    I 've been thinking of either rebarreling  an existing rifle or a new build in a very fast 22 cal centerfire. Like a 22 Cheatah or 22-243 middlestead. I want at least 4300 fps with a 50 or 55 gr bullet but 4500 fps would be better. I know barrel life will suffer but it will be a hunting gun for coyotes so it would take many years to put 500 rounds down the barrel. My old Ruger 77v in .243 would be a perfect action to rebarrel and this 22 cal will be replacing my .243 anyway. My other thoughts would be to rebarrel a Savage or a 783 rem myself using a prefit barrel. I can't get a prefit barrel in the cartridges I'm considering so a gunsmith would have to rechamber a prefit barrel anyway and that adds cost.    Any thoughts or if anyone has had experience with a FAST 22 cal would be appreciated.

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Re: very fast 22 caliber
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 06:49:59 AM »
223 WSSM
The fastest factory 22 cal. Warning a real barrel burner. I have 200 rounds down mine a throat is already eroding. The price for speed is wear.
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Re: very fast 22 caliber
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 06:41:32 PM »
    Dutch  thanks for the reply. I am researching the 22-243 AI. I see info on line where 4300-4500 fps is possible with this round. I read were a guy shot 35 gr bullets over 5000 fps. I want a very fast 22 cal for coyote hunting when I drive the backroads at daybreak. If the coyote is under 500 yards they are almost always running. The .243 I use is shooting 55 gr bullets at 4150 fps. I don't have to lead them much but sighted in at 300 yards it is like 30 inches low at 500 yards. The 22-243 AI with a 290 BC bullet at 4400 fps would shoot a lot flatter. Also I think my barrel is on its last winter so its time to play with something new. I would hope to get at least 600 or 700 rounds before accuracy starts to fall off.     What bullet are you using and how fast are you pushing it Dutch.

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Re: very fast 22 caliber
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2019, 09:43:57 PM »
not, I'm using Hornady V-Max 50gr. Pushing them at 5300 in the 223 WSSM. Great hot little round for yotes and whistle pigs. I did manage to bring down a couple of antelopes this past summer too. As I said this velocity has really wore the throat. I expect another 150-200 rounds before it becomes erratic. I have three lands that have been torn back a good 35 thou and the other 2 are flaking off pretty badly. Really love these pills though and use them in 22-250 just don't push them as hard. I do use the boat tail ones, they seem to stabilize really well. In either gun I can hold a 1/4" - 3/8" dispersion at 500. The 22-250 with it's longer barrel is actually more accurate holding a 1/2" spread at 1000. You guessed it a whistle pigs last nightmare.

Good luck on your project.

BTW I hope to test fire the 243-5K build (I've named it "Gossamer") within the next couple of weeks. I've jotted down all me notes and specs on this build and will be posting it as soon as I have actual velocity data.
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Re: very fast 22 caliber
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Re: very fast 22 caliber
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2019, 04:18:42 PM »
WOW 5300 fps.. That's awesome Dutch.    If I can get 4400 or 4500 fps with a 50 gr bullet I will be very happy. Guys on line say over 1000 rounds before accuracy drops off. I sent Krieger an email on what twist to use but have not got a reply. The gunsmith is checking prices on a reamer and then will give me a estimate on the build.    I'm going to rebarrel my old Ruger 77V  heavy barrel. The heavy barrel will come off and be replaced with a Krieger stainless steel medium sporter weight barrel 26 inches long. I'm also going to replace the factory trigger with a Timney trigger. The action is glass bedded and the 8lb firing pin spring was replaced years ago with a 12lb spring. The barrel channel is for a heavy barrel but I want a little lighter rifle to carry so I'm going to a sporter weight. The replacement stocks are really expensive so I'll use what I have but will keep my eyes open at the gunshows this winter.

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Re: very fast 22 caliber
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2019, 03:53:30 PM »
      I'm getting a little closer to finalizing the rebarreling project. As always I'm on a budget. I would really like to try a TRIGGERTECH trigger but they don't make one for my old 77 Ruger so a Timney it is. I can save a little if I go with a cheaper barrel but I don't think buying a lower priced barrel is a good idea and the Gunsmith really is a strong Krieger barrel fan. He uses them on all his competition guns and recommends them for all his clients builds too. So Krieger it is. Either a 1 in 12 or 1 in 14 twist. The gunsmith has a factory "take off" barrel in 22-250 that He offered to rechamber to 22-243 AI and let me use it to fireform brass so I don't wear out my barrel just fire forming my brass. Then after that he will put on the Krieger and I will be able to start out with a new barrel in 22-243 AI. 200 rounds of brass would last me a lifetime in a Coyote gun. All we need to do is come together on the costs of his services and I can decide what to do.

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Re: very fast 22 caliber
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2019, 05:07:44 PM »
good luck. get them before they have pups this spring.

I had a yote poop in my driveway last night and there was deer hair in it. i'm guessing the winter kill will be high this year. if there wasn't 3-4' of snow, i'd look for the deer.

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