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Author Topic: Creedmoor  (Read 378 times)

Offline BoBallistic

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« on: June 01, 2018, 06:39:39 PM »
FYI - We all know now about the 6.5 and 6mm Creedmoor Caliber and Rifles and how flat they shoot and what a great long distance deer round it is...I for one love my 6.5 Creedmoor that is in a Savage 10 BA stealth configuration...it loves the 140 gn pill and mine shoots 1/2 MOA....I'm in the market for another 6.5 Creedmoor before this coming hunting season and also a 260 Remington.

But does anybody know where the word Creedmoor comes from? The Picatinny rail comes from an Army Arsenal in New Jersey. The Picatinny rail was design by the Army many moons ago. Don't know about you, but I want to put a Picatinny Rail on all of my rifles, am slowly doing it...but like Picatinny, Creedmoor came from the Creedmoor ranges and matches held back in 1870's in Long Island, New York, now know as the Burrough of Queens...and the NRA was there as well sponsoring the match......That was back then when it was OK to own a rifle in the State of New York....but look at it now.....

 
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Re: Creedmoor
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 07:25:52 PM »
Besides being the name of three cities there is a Creedmoor rifle range near Queens, NY , also one of the cities is in Texas .  ##$%#1118
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2018, 06:46:38 PM »
Thanks Bo I've learned something new today!
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Re: Creedmoor
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2018, 04:02:37 PM »
my buddy just bought a 6.5 creedmore bergarra(sp?) for his son for graduation. I think it's OK for deer, but I don't think I would hunt much bigger animals like an elk. his son must have read an 'expert' article about this gun. there was no talking sense to him. you know the 18 year old that knows it all
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2018, 08:09:54 AM »
Yari - I agree with you, that a 6.5 is a great deer rifle but for a quick dispatch of the bears (all of them) Elk, Moose, and other critters of 500 lbs you are going to need a magnum load or at least a 30-06, 338-06, 35 Wheelen, 45-70 and keep it within 200 to 250 yard shot....and use a min of 180 gns bullets on them...JMO.....anything else for beyone 200 yards will require a Mag for sure....JMO, again

Sure you will have some folks that a 257 Weatherby, 270 Win, 280 Rem is large enough and they have taken down large game with them....but having studied calibers and cartridge for many years now, I would say that you will need 180 gns. or more to ethical take down the kitter. Ed Weatherby said that he took Elk the 257 Weatherby and that was his favorite round, but if I am going to go after a larger trophy I would be thinking of a 180 gn or larger....

Having said all that, I remember taking a 300WSM and a 30-06 of my first and second Safari's over in South Africa. Once I talk to the guide over there he suggest that I take a 30 caliber or larger simple because it will work better and dispatch the game quicker. I remember him saying that to me...the vitals are in a different location for their game over there. So I went out and bought a 300WSM Nosler TRG.....

Congrats to your buddy who bought the Bergarra (Barrel) rifle in 6.5 CM, should make a great deer rifle. I'm in the market for another 260 and 6.5 Creedmoor..... 
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Re: Creedmoor
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 08:19:14 AM »


The following info came from the New York State Parks Department....it still doesn't explain how the name from Creed to Creedmoor how and why it happen....

Creedmoor Farm Park is named after the old Creed family farmhouse, thought to date back to the 1730s. Since the American Revolutionary War (1775-1783) the site was the preserve of the Creed farm, but has since served functions as diverse as the site of several National Rifle Association title matches and the home of Creedmoor State Hospital.

Until 1871 Creedmoor Farm Park and the surrounding area were the property of the Creed family. The Creed farmhouse originated as a small frame home, which combined traditional Dutch colonial architecture such as a curved eave and a wide overhang on the roof, with English elements, including a chimney in the center of the house. In August 1871 Conrad Poppenhusen (1818-1883), the promoter behind the Central Railroad of Long Island, bought a right-of-way for the railroad all along the north side of Braddock Avenue, including the Creed Family farm. Poppenhusen offered the remainder of the farm to the National Rifle Association as a rifle range for the New York State National Guard. When the NRA agreed, they renamed the site Creedmoor, after the Creed family. From the 1870s to the 1890s, Creedmoor hosted the National Rifle Associationís title match. Many nearby streets hold names relating to the association, including Winchester Boulevard as well as Range, Musket, Pistol, and Sabre Streets. In the 1890s, the property was acquired by the State. The range was closed in 1907. In 1912, the land was developed as a ďfarm colonyĒ for many of the Brooklyn Psychiatric Centerís patients. A successful venture, the facilities were expanded and eventually became a separate entity from the Brooklyn center. By 1934 the hospital had grown to include 70 buildings, and was known as Creedmoor State Hospital.

This property passed to the City from the State on June 26, 1981. In 1987 the park was named by Parks Commissioner Stern. In the park stands the Jacob Adriance Farmhouse, which provides educational tours and information sessions on horticultural technology, farm life history and food preparation. The site also houses a fully operational farm, which grows basic crops such as corn, tomatoes, cucumbers, and zucchini and is home to cows, goats, sheep, ducks and pigs. In 1997 a $1,023,000 renovation of the farmís greenhouse was funded by Borough President Claire Shulman. Additionally the park contains two soccer fields operated by the Littleneck/Douglaston Youth Club.....

In this anti-gun environment that New Yorkers live in today, I'm sure the State of New York will get ride/erase of any association with the NRA and the Creed or Creedmoor name....
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Re: Creedmoor
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 05:42:17 PM »
Great info Bo thanks
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