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Offline yari

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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2017, 09:11:18 PM »
bo- don't forget about the yamaha outboards. i've been very happy w/ the 2 i've owned. one met it's demise on a reef on a LOTW trip, but that was of course my fault. that was pre-gps mapping on my boat
Yari I've owned three bass boats over the years. I've had two Rangers one with a Johnson and the other with a Mercury 150. It had two built in 12 gallons tanks and it really like the gas. The fishing trip I go on every year to Lake Oconee is for seven days. The Ranger with the Mercury 150hp two stroke would burn 12 to 14 gallons of gas each day on the water. Wide open it would run 68 MPH and I'd make runs of about 20 miles each day.

Now I've got a Triton with a Yamaha 115hp four stroke. It has a 30 gallon gas tank and will run around 57 MPH. On the same trip I'll fill the boat up and fish that lake as I always have for the seven days and will return home with a quarter tank of gas. The Yamaha four stroke has really impressed me over the years and the saving just on gasoline has made the extra cost of the four stroke well worth the money. It very quiet and the performance is amazing. I'll never own another outboard motor that's not a Yamaha or four stroke engine. Yamaha also makes boats the G3's are welded aluminum and very well made. Metalman has one with a 25 four stroke Yamaha on it, awesome little fishing rig. Yamaha has their act together on anything they make! I'm a huge fan...

57 mph w/ a 115hp? i have a 115hp on my 1750 crestliner and it tops out about 45mph. i have to believe it's a lot lighter than your triton. is a glass boat that much faster?

i hated the only merc i ever owned. i won't buy another one
My Triton is the TR175 which is 17'3" I have a stainless steel prop on it which will give you and addition 3 to 4 mph. I know a Bass Boat hull design is built for speed and when I'm at full throttle and fully trimmed the back 2 1/2 feet or less is all of the boat that is in the water as I'm riding on the back pad of the hull. Aluminum V hulls are slower by design. I cruise at 45 mph which saves a lot of fuel.  I would think that glass is heavier but hull design has a lot to do with performance.

i've always been told this, but it's hard for my thick skull to absorb this info. there is such a weight difference, it doesn't seem possible. i guess that explains why i'm not an engineer
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 08:53:25 PM »
My Honda Inverter EU3000is went toast after 5 years of extremely limited use  @--0--0126

I got it after Hurricane Sandy and only used it to crank it up on occassion to keep ensuring it would work.

Never had to use it for power back up, ever.

$2k down the drain @--0--0126 @--0--0126

I was impressed with  how slient it ran however.

I wont buy a replacement until I move to Florida

I may consider bolting a Generac Gardian for the new home. It needs to handle  a 2,800  sq ft home floor home with all the new electronic do dads ( security system, Nest internal/external Nest Cameras, multiple TVís, wifi, router, chest freezer and 2 back up refrigerators   

I saw the new Honda 7000is with the fuel injection system

I am torn if I should get a Generac just for the Florida home or consider  if I would ever need the portability of the Honda inverter  should I find a hunting camp to join in Florida in  Georgia and need to have power at camp or just rough it and have the non-portable system at home

What say ye?
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2017, 11:06:56 PM »
Flint - That doesn't sound like a Honda Generator's that are in our club...Wow, sorry to hear about that!!! But most of our Honda's crank up and work just fine year after year, I would say that we have probably a dozen or so in our club......Yes most of them run pretty darn quiet....and dependable. Metalman's Honda 2000 had a problem but after talking to several Honda guys he got it corrected. I will let him tell you the story...He and Split Toe are the ones that pulls the maintenance. Your Honda 3000 sounds like a problem that Honda should have fixed, maybe you got a bad or greedy dealer??

As far as your house generator, you should size it with the main breaker...if you have 100 amp breaker you size it according. Not all breakers will be pulling juice at the same time and NEC code allows you to size up 125% of rated load. In other words, a 100 amp breaker should be sized 100 amps times 120 Watts which equals 12000 Watts but if you figure about 75% of load, the Generator Size should be size for around 9K Generator. Similar with a 150 Amp House Breaker should sized for about 13.5K generator and a 200 Amp service should be sized up to about 18K Watts.....

I know our Home Depot and Lowes pushes Generac whole house pad mounted generator. If I were you I would look at Yamaha Generators for a portable, we have a 2800 Watt for our Cook Shack and it has ran flawless for a number of years.....we have tried other portables with no luck, they will run fine for a year maybe two then crap out....
Other Generators are Kohler and the new Briggs and Stratton. Are you thinking about a propane or diesel fuel for your generator??

The attached link is from one of my favorite places on the web...Popular Mechanics....good reference article.....Just trying to help here......

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/how-to/a8523/should-you-buy-a-standby-generator-14880060/
 
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2017, 07:21:10 AM »
Here is how it went Flint the old Honda 200 was purring along and all of a sudden no power but the motor was still purring. Got up dressed and went out side the power indicator late was on no warning signals going off. Turned it off and restarted no electricity but motor ran fine. Took it home checked the wiring to the receptacle no power. Long story short carried it to the local shop paid them $35 to diagnose, they called said it was working fine ran on load cell for two hours no problem. So I called Splittoe and we rode over to the shop, I asked what had happened they said nothing it worked fine when they checked, alarms started going off in my head. We took it to Splittoe's house and hooked a drill nothing, I was fuming. Loaded her back up and back to the shop. They knew I wasn't happy when I walked in, the generator specialist came over grabbed his load cell and fired her up he got nothing. They had it for a week and finally had to call Honda tech, after several conversations and troubleshooting turns out a small connector from the inverter to the receptacle plate had broken inside the plastic housing and would intermediate connect and disconnect. They had never seen this before, new harness and good as new. Oh and I kept the old one and ordered a new connector disassembled and repaired so now I have a spare.
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2017, 09:55:08 PM »
Thanks guys. It did smoke, a white and blueish smoke. Still as the dealers. I had sine a lot if money this weekend to get my Suburban attended to. New calipers, shocks, break linings, change transmission fluids, flush radiatoe. It is a 2002 Suburban with 165,000 miles but I try and keep her alive as I cannot afford the new Suburbans.

I suppose I will but the Honda ue700is when I move to Florida. They may work betterthan putting the big and noisy Generac Generator on my new house. The house will be Approximatley 2,800 sq ft, one floor home, so the Honda eu7000is should be adequate
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2018, 08:19:55 AM »
Honda put out a statement that they will be shortly adding another member of the EU family to its lineup....after researching it a bit, it looks like they are going to introduce a 2200 watter to their line....no price has been mention to it but probably a bit over a grand.....When Deerhead told me about this, we both speculated that it could be solar, or has large storage capacitors?? But finally found out that they will be shortly adding another generator to its line up.....

I wonder why they did not go up to 2400 Watts with it? or even 2600. The new one is suppose to be quieter than the EU2000 models. Maybe an remote start but that would require an extra small battery....but maybe 2200 is all they can fit into the frame...it is almost the same size ad the EU2000.....Metalman is our Generator Guru and will put him on it and see what he comes up with....

Down at our Hunt Club we have a Yamaha 2600 for the Cook-Shack and it one person can struggle with it (except Jap51-he is a big dude!) and two regular sized members can handle it...it has served us well over the years......and hopefully many more to come....Most everyone down at the club these days has Honda's EU 2000 and most have the extended run tanks....this is for their AC units (this is needed during the first weeks of Archery season) and for their CPAP machines. I don't have AC in my camper (well I do and not sure if it will run or not, its one of those roof AC units) and use my EU1000 for the fans and the lights....I love the little Honda..

We will see what Honda comes out when, but it will probably be later on in Feb before we find out all the details about it.....

http://hondanews.com/power-equipment/releases/all-new-honda-eu2200i-super-quiet-series-generator-delivers-customers-more-power-for-work-home-or-play-with-the-same-legendary-honda-quality-and-reliability/photos/honda-eu2200i-18

 

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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2018, 07:36:24 AM »
The new EU2200 Honda has a MSRP of $1150...from Deerhead....
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2018, 06:47:10 AM »
This past Work Weekend at our club, Split Toe had a problem cranking our Yamaha 2800I that we use to run our camp lights, microwave, TV and Fans....We use it and abuse it, so Metalman came to our rescue (again) and figured out that the air filter had clogged up took it out, got the Yamaha running again....think Split Toe and/or Metalman got a new air filter for it this past week.....

We have taken the Yamaha for granted over the years and We were trying to figure out how many hours we have ran in since everyone chipped in $50 and bought it about 8 or 9 years ago....but it has to be approx 2000 to 2500 hours we have ran it...Wow, we have watched a bunch of football games (both Atlanta Falcons and Ga Bulldogs) and when it goes out, due to running out of gas, boy does it get dark, I mean you cannot see your hand in front of your face dark!! We instantly jump up and fill the Yamaha back up and finish our dinner and watching whatever was on TV....

Faithfully we change oil in it (Split Toe and Metalman does most of the maintenance on it) change spark plugs every year, and we only use non-ethanol gas in it...it really seems to help so I think we all in the club have switched to non-ethanol gas in all of our ATV's and portable generators....but we have talked about replacing it with another Yamaha 2800 (or larger) generator when this one does it final run......

 
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2018, 11:32:44 AM »
This morning ahead of the rain that is predicted to come our way, changed the oil in the three generators, very easy to do...so that is done....metalman has gave us a heads up about the pull chord and if it starts to fray, change it out immediately!!! once it breaks, all heck will break loose.....also re-charged the air filters on all three Honda's....need to change the plug but can wait till after the season....

Will take down one 2000 Honda on Oct 9th and then will take down the other Honda 2000 (the one with the parallel kit attached) for the two week hunt and then for the Thanksgiving and after Christmas hunts will take down the Honda 1000....also each time down will bring plenty of non-ethanol gas (10 gallons) for my generators, ATV and the cook shack ATV (Yamaha)

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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2018, 03:46:23 PM »
The Honda Generator or the Honda Hum around Deer Camp is interesting, they run all night long for those old farts and require a CPAP machine for sleeping....there are three of them at camp and probably more on the way.....we have about 5 or 6 Generators that run all night long (just depends on who is Hunting down there.....so these Honda's get a work out for sure...Metalman is the club chief mechanic who makes sure that the camp Generator, a Yamaha 2800, is up and running all the time...at the end of the season, the Yamaha and Honda's get taken home and the proper maintenance is performed by Metalman and Split Toe. Split Toe keeps the Yamaha at home until it is needed at deer camp....

I do not use my Honda except either in the early morning hours getting ready to go Hunting and it only runs 2 to 3 hours a day.....

The key to them is maintenance! Got to change oil ever 50 hours and the spark plug every year, be sure to charge the air filter on them as well.......I own three Honda and change the oil in the every three years. I will rotate them so every three years (like this year) it is time to change the oil and all three plugs, the last time I did the normal maintenance to these generators it took me about an hour for each one of them...but had the little Honda 1000 going on about 12 or 13 years and the Honda 2000 are about 10 years old...not a minute's problem with them.....even have a parallel kit on one of them just in case we need 4000 watts (33.33 Amps) for some unknown reason....

 
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Re: Portable Generators
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2018, 04:46:27 PM »
I thought about one for the cabin. it's a wilderness place, so I opted out. the neighbors down the road have one and at a mile away I can hear it on calm nights. we do use one on our ice fishing trip. it is very handy and runs all day except sleeping hours unless someone has a c-pap


you are 100% correct. maintain your equipment and use high octane leaded gas. keep the gas fresh, less than 2 months old is key
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