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Offline Hunt Master

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A dirty request...
« on: July 16, 2017, 08:12:48 AM »
Got your attention, didnt I?

OK guys and gals, I need some ideas. As many of you know, I am building a cabin on our pond. However, I am still stuck on one important feature... the toilet.

The water table is too high for a conventional septic tank (or even an outhouse). Just not possible.  Even if it was legal, I wouldn't want to just let it run on the ground and that area floods every few years so I am worried about using a holding tank. plus a holding tank has to be emptied and that is probably an expensive option.

I looked at a composting toilet but they are complex to use and expensive....

Any ideas?
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 08:21:04 AM »
It's simple.  Do what the bears do!   --099-780
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 08:34:38 AM »
i have the same issue at my place. i don't have electric and like you said, a poop burner would be expensive. mine is a little use outhouse. i do the same thing we do in the ice shack. i set up an outhouse w/ a 5 gallon pale and a plastic bag. it's only for #2. when needed, i get rig of the #2 bag.

when the wife comes up(not often) i have a different bucket w/ a seat on it for #1. they sell the seat covers all over

it's primitive, but it works. if you get a better idea i'm all ears
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 08:50:21 AM »
Short of going to a rented porta-jon or some type of fully enclosed system I think litterbox-bucket outhouse is going to be the most economical option.

Being in a flood zone makes most options pretty undesirable.

I'm just not aware of that many different options (which does not mean there aren't any out there)
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 12:12:50 PM »
Louie beat me to the obvious response!

HM - They sell portable holding tanks for RVs that allow you to drain your black water system into the tank, then wheel it down the road (or into your pickup) to be emptied at a dump station.  So perhaps if you rig up a RV style toilet with a 4" hose and gate valve going to the portable holding tank???  Next question would be, do you have a place to unload the holding tank?  Check out an RV supply store (Camping World, etc).
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2017, 10:54:58 AM »
Madgomer probably has the right idea. A portable one on wheels. They are used around here at campground near water reservoirs. Pretty reasonably priced to.
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2017, 11:12:33 AM »
I have been looking at and researching the composting toilets - http://natureshead.net/ but havent made up my mind. Im worried that as much use as I am expecting between us and bugfixers family a holding tank that has to be dumped and hauled away will be a major pain. I am also looking at a gig holding thank that a septic company can come pump out but not sure how that will work if it floods.

The wife is not fond of the bucket idea.. LOL
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2017, 01:13:40 PM »
We dig a deep hole with a post hole digger and place a bedside toilet over the hole. Each time we go #2 we simply cover it up with some of the dirt from digging the hole. Works great.
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2017, 01:36:58 PM »
My Aunt has a composting toilet in her pool house and iy works very well.
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2017, 04:39:07 PM »
A Turkey Mound is done a lot in PA if you can locate it where it would not be too obtrusive
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 10:01:36 AM »
When I owned a river cabin on the white river I was faced with the same flooding issue. I came up with a design of using 2- 55 gallon plastic drums.

See attached photo. I know its a crude drawing but you will get the idea.

Main drum is sort of like the main holding tank like in septics. Holds the major solids and allows it to be broken down with the water from each flush. Once the water level raises enough it moves to the second drum(transfer pipe must be lower than pipe from toilet.) which has holes drilled in it and allows it to be released into your gravel field.(hence cheap lateral system that will not be effected by high water. Each drum has about 4 inches of concrete or sakcrete in the bottom to keep them from raising during high water.

Things to think about.

When you have flood conditions you will not be using the cabin. No cabin use no toilet use.
Flooding is just mother natures way of giving your system a good flushing.

I installed my system about 15 yrs ago and recently talked to the owner of cabin now and they are still using my system.

Hope this helps.

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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2017, 09:16:19 AM »
I think the composting toilet is the best and most environmentally way to go, it has to have power so is that a problem? You could set up an outhouse for the dry season and limit the use of composting. I the old days when you used the outhouse, you would use the toilet and then cover with a scoop of garden lime. The lime help break down the waste and helped keep the smell down. All bet are off if you cook lots of beans at the camp!  --7-8-9
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2017, 08:08:03 PM »
I think the composting toilet is the best and most environmentally way to go, it has to have power so is that a problem? You could set up an outhouse for the dry season and limit the use of composting. I the old days when you used the outhouse, you would use the toilet and then cover with a scoop of garden lime. The lime help break down the waste and helped keep the smell down. All bet are off if you cook lots of beans at the camp!  --7-8-9
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 06:20:11 AM »
I think the composting toilet is the best and most environmentally way to go, it has to have power so is that a problem? You could set up an outhouse for the dry season and limit the use of composting. I the old days when you used the outhouse, you would use the toilet and then cover with a scoop of garden lime. The lime help break down the waste and helped keep the smell down. All bet are off if you cook lots of beans at the camp!  --7-8-9

We will have power. That is in process now. We cant do an outhouse. Water table is too high. Any hole over 6 in deep fills up with water.
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Re: A dirty request...
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2017, 06:56:54 PM »
i'm sad Mrs HM didn't like my suggestion. maybe that's why my wife doesn't 'need' to come up.  ???


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