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Author Topic: Question on buck color this fall - UPDATE  (Read 1085 times)

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Question on buck color this fall - UPDATE
« on: November 02, 2016, 06:50:47 PM »
Monday I was setting in my ground blind when a 1 1/2 year old 4 pointer passed by , his coat was darker than I have ever seen , I was wondering if any other northern hunters have seen the same thing as far as a really dark colored winter coat this year ?  ##$%#1118
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 07:14:18 PM »
Nope haven't noticed that this year any more than normal, but some bucks lose that reddish/orange coat & switch to grey/brown sooner than others.  Usually it seems the more mature/dominant bucks in a given area get darker earlier than the subordinates - - haven't been taking data to prove that point, but it seems to be the general trend I've noticed.  Have always suspected it's some sort of hormone thing.  On that little guy, I suspect he's not the boss buck, so my theory is probably worthless.
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 07:28:42 PM »
Nope haven't noticed that this year any more than normal, but some bucks lose that reddish/orange coat & switch to grey/brown sooner than others.  Usually it seems the more mature/dominant bucks in a given area get darker earlier than the subordinates - - haven't been taking data to prove that point, but it seems to be the general trend I've noticed.  Have always suspected it's some sort of hormone thing.  On that little guy, I suspect he's not the boss buck, so my theory is probably worthless.
Yes but his back was almost black , today I was talking with another that hunter who hunts the area and he has also noticed the color change this year .
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 07:31:02 PM »
Hmmm - wonder if it's something they're rolling around in.  Can't say I've seen anything like that.
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 08:23:16 PM »
sorry, they look normal around here. if anything, they are a little lighter. could be a genetic thing in your area?
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 06:40:40 AM »
I have not noticed that with any of the deer I have seen thus far.
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 03:09:28 PM »
Ours  in Indiana are pretty much normal color too.

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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 05:05:49 PM »
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What about the idea that of deer having naturally darker or lighter coats similar to human skin complexions.  I'm aware of the summer/winter color differences and just this week pulled a camera card that had a bunch of does and fawns around a corn feeder.  One doe really stood out as she was a lot darker than the others around her.  I'm sorry I deleted most of those pictures, but here is one that shows 3 does and a spotted fawn that shows her with a darker shade than the others. 

A couple of years ago we had an old doe that had a very pronounced black stripe along her top line, up her neck with a very noticeable black face.  She had an almost black fawn, a buck that stayed around the next season as a spike.  Never saw him again.  Looking at pictures you get an idea what's going on and then sitting in the stand after a few weeks, I can usually recognize does and their little ones by their color and sometimes by their actions.  We usually get to watch quite a parade for the 1st half of the season before the rut really kicks in out in January and February.  A pair of fawns showing up without momma makes you look a little closer and see if it's about to happen!
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 09:25:46 AM »
Sundowner,
What about the idea that of deer having naturally darker or lighter coats similar to human skin complexions.  I'm aware of the summer/winter color differences and just this week pulled a camera card that had a bunch of does and fawns around a corn feeder.  One doe really stood out as she was a lot darker than the others around her.  I'm sorry I deleted most of those pictures, but here is one that shows 3 does and a spotted fawn that shows her with a darker shade than the others. 

A couple of years ago we had an old doe that had a very pronounced black stripe along her top line, up her neck with a very noticeable black face.  She had an almost black fawn, a buck that stayed around the next season as a spike.  Never saw him again.  Looking at pictures you get an idea what's going on and then sitting in the stand after a few weeks, I can usually recognize does and their little ones by their color and sometimes by their actions.  We usually get to watch quite a parade for the 1st half of the season before the rut really kicks in out in January and February.  A pair of fawns showing up without momma makes you look a little closer and see if it's about to happen!
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Over the years I have seen this in older deer but not this dark , in fact he was even darker than your doe , but he is only 1 1/2 years old in the past I have heard them call swamp bucks and there is one in the area and I do not have any pictures of this buck this year .
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Re: Question on buck color this fall
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 09:47:54 AM »
Have not noticed this year but I have noticed over the years that deer that hang out in swamps have very dark legs and are generally darker all over than deer that don't hang in the wet.  @--0--0117
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Re: Question on buck color this fall - UPDATE
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 07:01:26 PM »
Here are some pictures that show some of the referent colors the bucks compared to does (fawn) . 
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Re: Question on buck color this fall - UPDATE
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2016, 05:31:05 PM »
my middle Ga buck was very dark gray in color so were others killed in our area.
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Re: Question on buck color this fall - UPDATE
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2016, 07:06:13 PM »
I saw a whitetail buck this week in SD that was gray and holed up w/ a mulie doe. I saw no other gray deer
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Re: Question on buck color this fall - UPDATE
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2016, 08:33:29 AM »
Just like most animals, there are some color differences within a species that can be genetically passed down
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