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Author Topic: ildnr checking your trail cams  (Read 994 times)

Offline weberj62

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ildnr checking your trail cams
« on: November 03, 2011, 07:33:41 PM »
so here in il i have herd stories of the dnr doing night fly to watch for flash from trail cams then marking them with gps.  going in to the area locating them and checking for salt block and other illegal item.  mostly in pike county.  my questions would be is it legal for them to do this.


saw the ticket a guy showed me at the bar. 

one can they mess with the cam.
two can they come on to the property to check it with just a night flyover?

o and i know i cant arrest someone for illegel activety by going on there propert y and seeing them gets thrown out in are county.
any thoughts
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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 07:39:33 PM »
That is a sticky question, Virginia isn't even thinking of anything like that but they do love the trail cameras to help convict trespassers.

Virginia DNR has the right to enter your house without a search warrant and inspect what is in your freezer and take it id they wish.
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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 08:52:08 PM »
Another reason to us IR cameras, just a thought
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Offline jovado105

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 12:59:22 PM »
That is a sticky question, Virginia isn't even thinking of anything like that but they do love the trail cameras to help convict trespassers.

Virginia DNR has the right to enter your house without a search warrant and inspect what is in your freezer and take it id they wish.

I would assume they can go check cameras as they wish.  As far as writing tickets/summons/arrests all they need is Probable Cause (more likely than not that criminal activity is taking place). Will it hold up in court?  Depends on the judge and county. 
Thats at least my training and experience in the police world.  DNR and EPA know the case law that specifically applies to their jobs specifically so its hard to say exactly what they are working with. I don't deal with it much in the hood and big city.

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 01:25:03 PM »
Game wardens have more jurisdiction than most police agencies. Anyone can fly over you property and take pictures, your air space belongs to everyone (government). I'm surprised that they have enough money to do that in this economy.
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Offline dennis engeman

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 03:31:27 PM »
At my house NO ONE will come in univited or without a legal warrant .That is the same as a home invasion,I will protect my home and family ,with deadly force.

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2011, 07:36:11 PM »
That's pretty sneaky flying over and GPSing the flashes as they fly by, and coming later to check out the area. 
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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 09:08:08 AM »
From what I understand if they have a suspision they could walk into your house and check your freezer. I think they have way to much power.
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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 09:49:58 AM »
Another reason to us IR cameras, just a thought

Gutshot IR camera's put off a Flash just as bright if not brighter then a regular Flash Camera... Now the IR Flash is not viseable to the naked eye but look at a IR Camera going off through a monocular scope it is bright...
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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 09:53:42 AM »

i can't see Michigan doing this with the  budget crisis going on with the DNR
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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 06:54:24 AM »
Yeah the DNR here has more authority than the local law enforcement agencys. That is a fairly sneaky way for them to do that, thats for sure. But being in that particular county that is such a hotbed for paid deer hunts, do you not think that the outfitters (and Im not saying any or all of them) are using all the tools available to lure and keep big deer on the leases that they control. I know it sounds sneaky, but if your playing the game right then you have nothing to worry about.

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 07:30:22 AM »
At my house NO ONE will come in univited or without a legal warrant .That is the same as a home invasion,I will protect my home and family ,with deadly force.

They can't come in your house without a warrant here in MO.  4th Amendment still applies.  @--0--0123


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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2011, 07:33:51 AM »
Here in Missouri the Department of Conservation does fly over looking for bait.  They do it during daylight as far as I know.  Pretty sure I saw them doing it last Saturday.  Flying low and slow.  My hunting partner and I texted each other at the same time that we thought that was what it was.


Offline bobow

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2011, 05:46:05 PM »
I find it amazing with this economy that something like this is going on.  With that said, I have to wonder how grounded in reality this report is.  ???
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Offline Duane72

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Re: ildnr checking your trail cams
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 09:24:50 PM »
Here in RI DEM hasgovening athorit t go on esonal property as long as there is jut intent. Seeing flashes and considering them possible baiting sites would probaly be enough in this state. I don't see them messing with the camera though unless they actually find bait at the site.
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