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Anybody ever get this? You get all pulled back set and pins lined up and then you fumble the release? I dont know if comes from concentrating too hard or what. Its not exactly a bad shot it just not perfect. It is awkward squeezing the release.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 07:21:32 PM » |
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Haven;t had release problems alot, I have always had a problem with gripping the bow to hard and not even realizing it. Guess I am focusing to much on stance, pins, release, etc.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2010, 07:33:47 PM » |
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had that would yank on the release and off would go the arrow missed the target and never knew a carbon arrow could brake like that when back to ten yards and shot there alot was at 30 yards before
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2010, 07:39:20 PM » |
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CMH... is it something like anticipating the shot when pistol or rifle shooting maybe? Something in you just stresses the tiniest bit in anticipation of the trigger pull. It's not all the time, but it can happen to even the most accomplished shooters.
And to answer your question... yes, it's happened to me. Several times. I have to consciously get over it sometimes.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 07:45:42 PM » |
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CMH... is it something like anticipating the shot when pistol or rifle shooting maybe? Something in you just stresses the tiniest bit in anticipation of the trigger pull. It's not all the time, but it can happen to even the most accomplished shooters.
And to answer your question... yes, it's happened to me. Several times. I have to consciously get over it sometimes.
It is definately something like that, I am thinking too much about having to release instead of being a suprise. In my way tof thinkling once I am on target the release should happen without thought and right now I am lining up and then thinking okay release and i am ending up just a little one way or the other and i know that is not where i was aiming. This sounds weird I know, but it is what it is. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 07:50:59 PM » |
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CMH... is it something like anticipating the shot when pistol or rifle shooting maybe? Something in you just stresses the tiniest bit in anticipation of the trigger pull. It's not all the time, but it can happen to even the most accomplished shooters.
And to answer your question... yes, it's happened to me. Several times. I have to consciously get over it sometimes.
It is definately something like that, I am thinking too much about having to release instead of being a suprise. In my way tof thinkling once I am on target the release should happen without thought and right now I am lining up and then thinking okay release and i am ending up just a little one way or the other and i know that is not where i was aiming. This sounds weird I know, but it is what it is.  I am going through a little bit of the same thing right now. Not every time but on occasion.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 08:29:09 PM » |
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CMH, I've done the same thing from time to time. I notice it the most when I've been shooting for awhile and my arms are tired.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 08:30:23 PM » |
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CMH, I've done the same thing from time to time. I notice it the most when I've been shooting for awhile and my arms are tired.
I think this is what my problem is as well.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 08:36:27 AM » |
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CMH... is it something like anticipating the shot when pistol or rifle shooting maybe? Something in you just stresses the tiniest bit in anticipation of the trigger pull. It's not all the time, but it can happen to even the most accomplished shooters.
And to answer your question... yes, it's happened to me. Several times. I have to consciously get over it sometimes.
It is definately something like that, I am thinking too much about having to release instead of being a suprise. In my way tof thinkling once I am on target the release should happen without thought and right now I am lining up and then thinking okay release and i am ending up just a little one way or the other and i know that is not where i was aiming. This sounds weird I know, but it is what it is.  It doesn't sound weird at all actually. It happens to more people than you might think. It's said we need to shoot until it's just muscle memory. Especially with pistols. As true as that is, and as much as it helps to be sure and consistent, one downfall is when you get into anticipation your bow arm may begin to move away before your trigger or release arm has followed through. Often this is because once an off shot is made, our thought is on where the arrow will hit so subconsciously we're moving the bow to see the arrow strike. This may or may not be what's happening with you, but it's something to check anyway. One thing you might try, if you haven't, is to change your pull. It may trick your head and off response. Instead of pulling the release with your finger, use your shoulder. When your in full draw, instead of pulling with your trigger finger, apply a little pressure to the trigger with your finger, the slide your shoulder back to pull your arm back, pulling your finger and resulting in a trigger release. I hope I explained that clear enough. Your mind will be settled in on making the pull that way and may cut your anticipation some. Just a suggestion to see if it helps.
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 08:46:54 AM » |
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CMH... is it something like anticipating the shot when pistol or rifle shooting maybe? Something in you just stresses the tiniest bit in anticipation of the trigger pull. It's not all the time, but it can happen to even the most accomplished shooters.
And to answer your question... yes, it's happened to me. Several times. I have to consciously get over it sometimes.
It is definately something like that, I am thinking too much about having to release instead of being a suprise. In my way tof thinkling once I am on target the release should happen without thought and right now I am lining up and then thinking okay release and i am ending up just a little one way or the other and i know that is not where i was aiming. This sounds weird I know, but it is what it is.  It doesn't sound weird at all actually. It happens to more people than you might think. It's said we need to shoot until it's just muscle memory. Especially with pistols. As true as that is, and as much as it helps to be sure and consistent, one downfall is when you get into anticipation your bow arm may begin to move away before your trigger or release arm has followed through. Often this is because once an off shot is made, our thought is on where the arrow will hit so subconsciously we're moving the bow to see the arrow strike. This may or may not be what's happening with you, but it's something to check anyway. One thing you might try, if you haven't, is to change your pull. It may trick your head and off response. Instead of pulling the release with your finger, use your shoulder. When your in full draw, instead of pulling with your trigger finger, apply a little pressure to the trigger with your finger, the slide your shoulder back to pull your arm back, pulling your finger and resulting in a trigger release. I hope I explained that clear enough. Your mind will be settled in on making the pull that way and may cut your anticipation some. Just a suggestion to see if it helps. Thanks I will try that, it is definately mental with me and I think I am anticipating instead of just shooting.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 09:00:09 AM » |
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Let us know how it goes!
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 09:17:27 AM » |
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Great stuff Duane. Thanks for the tip. I think I will try that today.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2010, 08:52:28 AM » |
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Thank goodness I have never came down with this, but I have a good friend that is going through this right now. We went to a archery coach and he said the only way to get rid of this is a back tension release. My buddy shot with the coaches release for over a hour, and his pattern tightend right up. I read something by Randy Ulmer that he prevents target paniac is to shoot at a target only 3 yards away with your eyes closed, this helps because you are feeling your form and release. If you are still having parget paniac, you might havta go with a back tension release, which you shouldn't hunt with. If you need to PM me feel free! Good luck, I hope this helps. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2010, 10:43:37 AM » |
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Man - I'm with ya on this problem. I seem to slip into doing this sometimes and it's hard to get re-composed. But, continued practice seems to correct the problem.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2010, 02:27:57 PM » |
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Man - I'm with ya on this problem. I seem to slip into doing this sometimes and it's hard to get re-composed. But, continued practice seems to correct the problem.
I am finding this too be true als the more I shoot the less of an issue it becomes. Also closing my eyes and shooting into a bag real close also works just thinking about my form and finding my anchor point and turning loose. Never had this issue before this year, this has been a first for me, but it has really made me focus on practice and the basics. But it is all coming together nicely.
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