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Tools of the Trade => Firearms => Topic started by: Slickfins on September 29, 2020, 03:09:46 PM

Title: New gun owner, have a bunch of questions...
Post by: [Blocked] on September 29, 2020, 03:09:46 PM
Hi folks,

I recently acquired my first gun, Winchester model 1300 12 gauge that I've named Rosie.  I live in a very large city with extremely restrictive gun laws, so for now, this is going to be my only firearm, but I'm planning to hunt a lot of different game with it. I've managed to get my first turkey with it this past Spring, as well as some very tasty gray squirrels last week.

My first question is about choke tubes. The barrel on my gun came with a threaded Full Choke tube, (I am not sure what brand, it does not specify). It seemed to pattern great with a 3 in. turkey load (lead shot) but I am planning to hunt waterfowl very soon, and I've read some conflicting opinions about whether or not a full choke tube is too restrictive for steel shot. Should I pick up a modified or even an improved cylinder choke instead? What do you guys use for waterfowl? I'm planning to mostly hunt puddle ducks, so I'm thinking I will shoot 3 in. shells in number 3 or 4 shot.  As far as brands, are there any standouts? Or are they all more or less the same?

My next question is about scopes. I tracked down a rifled slug barrel on ebay so that I can use the same weapon for deer (and maybe bear!) and it has an adjustable rifle sight on it. I'm interested in using a scope with the gun. I really like the idea of a cantilever mount so that I could mount the scope directly to the barrel, but I can't seem to find any info whatsoever on how to accomplish this for a winchester 1300.  I have seen some scope mounts where you would drill and tap the side of the receiver with a bracket, and then mount a scope to a quick release rail, but I wanted to see if anyone knew of a way to get a mount that attaches to the barrel and cantilevers over the receiver, like on a lot of Mossberg setups I've seen.

If anyone uses a scope on their slug gun, what kind do you like to use?

My next question is on cleaning and maintenance.  Since this is my only gun, I'm thinking I can just get a 12 gauge sized boresnake, yeah?  Or would a rod that passes the brush and then the patches be a better bet? Anything else I should pick up in terms of cleaning, (besides patches and some Hoppes?) I've been told that Ballistol is what was used to keep the gun lubed, so I was thinking of keeping that going.

My last question - do you guys keep anything in your gun safe to minimize humidity? I've been told to look into getting a mini gun dehumidifier, but my safe is barely large enough to hold two guns, and I'm not sure how necessary this advice is.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help with my questions, I appreciate it. Hope everyone has a safe and successful hunting season. Here's a photo of Rosie with a few squirrels I got for the crock pot last weekend :)


-Ryan
www.nyafield.com

Title: Re: New gun owner, have a bunch of questions...
Post by: [Blocked] on September 29, 2020, 09:58:35 PM
Well for starters, kinda bad timing on the questions but I'll weigh in "censored Word" what I know. I use modified choke for waterfowl. When I deer hunted with the shot gun I used a cantilever barrel, worked really nicely, I'm not sure if you can put a cantilever mount on a rifled barrel, mine came already on it. As for scope I had bushnell 3x9, if you are going to be in right cover you might want something less powerful I was gonna change mine out but quit using that for deer. For cleaning I've used a few different kits, just followed manual for disassembly and cleaned away.
Title: Re: New gun owner, have a bunch of questions...
Post by: [Blocked] on September 29, 2020, 10:27:25 PM
Slickfins:
A few things for you.  First of all, the TH forum is going away as of Oct 1, so if you're a Facebook user join us on this page where a lot of the former TH people are going to hang out:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1725148330984887/

As for the 1300 questions:
Choke tubes - if you're going to shoot steel shot, make sure whatever tube you use is rated for steel, regardless of the constriction.  Pattern the gun at the ranges you expect to be shooting with the loads you expect to use and select the choke to use accordingly.  As millers800 noted, a modified tube is probably a good choice but again make sure it's rated for steel shot. 

Boresnakes are great, I love them for rifles and shotguns both.  Ballistol is fine for lubrication, just don't overdo it.  Other good options out there too.

Adding a cantilevered scope mount to a rifled barrel with iron sights is something new to me - I've seen guys clamp a long eye relief scope onto a barrel with a vent rib, but I think to use a cantilevered scope configuration on a rifled barrel you'd need to find a barrel that has the mount already attached.  Might want to see if Winchester offers one or if someone like Hastings makes one for the 1300.  If I remember correctly the 1300 has an aluminum receiver.  If that's the case you may not want to drill and tap it for a receiver scope mount but if you do just be careful with screw torque.  B-Square or others probably offer a receiver mount for the 1300, and if they're like those for the Remingtons, no drilling is needed (just replace the cross pins with through bolts).  The biggest thing in my opinion to watch for on a receiver mount is to have that barrel nut as tight as you can reasonably get it, as accuracy will suffer if the barrel is moving relative to the receiver under the heavy recoil of slug loads (which is the main reason cantilever mounts are so popular, they keep the scope and barrel connected in one solid piece). 

Hope to see you on our facebook page soon.
Title: Re: New gun owner, have a bunch of questions...
Post by: [Blocked] on September 30, 2020, 07:05:05 AM

Heads up!

On the TH Forum from Hunt Master;
RE: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Reply #43 on: Today at 07:50:34 AM (30 Sep 20)
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http://www.talkhuntin.com/index.php?topic=47932.new#new


PJ
Title: Re: New gun owner, have a bunch of questions...
Post by: [Blocked] on September 30, 2020, 10:34:38 AM
Slickfins - I did a little web surfing and it does look like receiver mounts are available for your 1300, these would not require you to make any modifications to the receiver.  Haven't seen anyone selling cantilevered barrels for it.

Title: Re: New gun owner, have a bunch of questions...
Post by: [Blocked] on October 01, 2020, 10:31:45 PM
i think b quare sells a base that goes over your gun you just drive out two pins try looking up in youtube i use a 2 to 7 power shotgun scope make sure you get the scope that is for shotguns will have a longer eye relief and stand up to the jarring that a shotgun puts out