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Title: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 02, 2019, 06:19:48 PM
Getting in tomorrow sometimes, signature required by Fedex! a 2.5-10X x 42mm with BDC rifle scope in from Tract Optics. It is a Response Model and it has been reduced to close out price at $294....thinking/planning on putting the 1 inch tube on the Cooper M52 7x57....currently it has a Zeiss Conquest 1.8 - 5.5X x 38mm. Think I need a little more power. They, Zeiss, only made this scope for 2 to 3 years and it wasn't a big seller...

Maybe put it on the 300AAC in Rem or Ruger or a CZ 527 6.5 Grendel or the 6.8 SPC II by ???? bolt action rifle I will be purchasing later on this year....any comments....

Jon Lacorte (co-owner) told me that the Response is not the scope that the Toric is ?? it should be find for the Cooper M52 7x57...We will see....
Title: Re: Tract Response
Post by: [Blocked] on August 02, 2019, 08:14:09 PM
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Tract Response
Post by: [Blocked] on August 03, 2019, 04:05:36 PM
The Response Arrive around noon today. Unpacked it and took it outside and started getting use to it....2.5 - 10X x 42mm BDC with 1 inch tube...has long eye relief, and the fast focus ring is very responsive. The power ring is firm but not stiff, you can use it without taking you eye off your target....the windage and elevation knobs can be adjusted and returned back to zero after you have sighted it in just by simple lift and turn the turrets back to Zero, I do like that feature on it. Does not have a parallax setting on the scope, it is set for 100 yards...Glass is Clear with sharp images and accurate color rendition

Thinking about putting the Tract Response on the Cooper M52 7x57 and taking the Zeiss 1.8 - 5.5 x 38mm off and putting it on the future 300 Blackout....just thinking for now...need a little more power at the range....

Will take it out late tonight and early tomorrow morning before sun up just to do some checking and will do some reporting then....

Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 04, 2019, 07:58:25 AM
Was out early this morning along with the TRACT Response rifle scope. The scope was clear & sharp and it drew in the ambient light very good, I could actually see before I could legally see, if you know what I mean...I stayed out there about 30 minutes and then came inside into the gun room to "pick it apart" which I do with every scope and product that I buy....Maybe this is a bad habit of mine but I look at the owners manual after I had a chance to use the product and see if I can find out what makes it tick...still have not read the manual either the Toric or the Response rifle scopes....LOL...but the wife reads the owners manual cover to cover first before doing anything else....she is good about that....

The reticule is great and it is busy buy not that busy to take you eye off center and wander around the scope....it is set up for a 223, that is engraved on the top. I still like the turrets can be adjusted by raising the turrets and then turn them back to "0" for both Windage and Elevation. The scope falls into the category of "should I have bought it or not" I always ask myself that question for each product. Is the glass clear and the images are sharp - Yes. Is the color rendition true - Yes. Is the Fast Focus rings works - Yes. Can you turn the power ring without taking you eye off the target - Yes. Is the warranty lifetime and transferable - Yes. Will TRACT Optics be around for another 20 years? Who knows....Is the rifle scope Schott Glass - No, the glass was made in Japan, not China.....Which rifle do I put this on? Either The Cooper M52 7x57 or the Remingotn 700 LTR in 308...not sure as of this moment, may not put on them at all.....

First thing that I will do today is to installed my standard Vortex Cant Level on it.....when I order them 1" or 30mm Vortex Cant Levels I always order two or three of them as a back up to the back up.....






 
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 04, 2019, 02:20:51 PM
how does the clarity compare to the toric?
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 04, 2019, 07:32:29 PM
Its close but no cigar! the Toric is better at dust and dawn.....I will get the Toric out tomorrow and compare it against the Response....will do it early in the morning. not to alarm the neighbors. Will raise the garage door and this give me about a 300 yards distance, they are calling for fog forming in the morning as well....

Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 05, 2019, 11:35:28 AM
the price dependency is pretty good, that's why i ask
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 05, 2019, 07:27:31 PM
Everyday, including today, have taken the Toric Response outside and looked through it.....and then I go into the gun room thinking which rifle do I want to put it on....then I set and watch a hunting show and then play with it...just to check it out. It was made in the Philippines....Is that bad or good? at least it wasn't made in China. It looks like as you increase the power on the scope there is a small but definitely that closes down inside as you are looking through it....this isn't a big deal, I do like the spring loaded turrets. Where you can make adjustments as you shoot and then lift up the turret and reset it back to zero, I do like that. But I don't like the engraving of the "223/5.56" on the Elevation Turret....but I do like the fast focus ring...the power and the fast focus rings are firm but not that firm where you have to take you eye off and put some strength to change to power setting....you set it on the Response and it stays where you put it....

Still have not decided on what rifle to put it on.....for now, just put it in the box with the other 12 scopes that are not mounted!!!!Daaa....but the price is very good for a $300 and under scope....quality versus price....
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 05, 2019, 09:24:01 PM
bo- just to clarify to those not familiar tract optics, I think you mean TRACT RESPONSE not TORIC RESPONSE in the first line below. toric is a different scope 
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 06, 2019, 07:44:31 AM
Yari - You are so right, thank you. Need to read my post before pushing the "Post" button!!.....
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 05:05:59 AM
Was out with the TRACT Response yesterday and this time was able to "Go The Distance" with the Response, was able to look at long distance with it, almost 350 yards...boy was it clear and really wondering they rate the power settings on this scope, the 10X sure seems like 13 to 15 power rather than 10X. Yesterday also was reloading some 30-06 (165 gn Sierra GK using H4350, CCI-BR2 and Lake City Brass) in the Garage and was able to look thru both TRACT scope,  the Toric and the Response....one is made in Japan (Toric) and the other made in the Philippines. Jon Locoste is right, the Toric is different scope than the Response is....The Toric is sharper(by a lot) Clearer(just barely), brighter (by alot), and the color rendition is barely better on the Response....I could see about 175 yards with both scopes....but the power on the Response sure seems a little more than what it is engraved on the power dail....but since I had it out, went ahead and compare it to the Vortex Crossfire II, Nikon Prostaff, Leupold Freedom. It beat all of them except brightness, it was a close to the Leupold Freedom 3-9X x 50mm. Think the 50mm gave it the edge.... 

Also installed my standard Vortex Cant Level on the scope...Will tweak it (like I always do) once the scope gets mounted on it forever home....found a Leupold Cover for the scope, had it laying around. Just need to decide which rifle this scope belongs on.....
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 07:45:33 AM
Aw heck Bo, just buy another rifle for it.  No sense spending time sorting through the pile to find one in your current inventory!   
  --099-780 ##$%#114 --099-780
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 09:26:05 AM
that is what i would expect. thx for the info
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 02:27:20 PM
Mad - Have a 300 Blackout in Mind how about that in a Ruger or Remington....maybe a 6.5 Grendel in a CZ-527?. Put the Zeiss 1.8-5.5X on the CZ and put the TRACT Response on the Cooper M52 7x57....maybe buy both! Put a Konus 1.5-6X x 44MM, 30mm tube on the one of the rifles? Or maybe the Leupold Freedom 3-9X x 50mm or one of the two Vortex Crossfire II 3-9X x 40mm......What do you think? that still leaves me a pile of scope as back ups.....

I think the 6.5 Grendel in the CZ-527 and the Zeiss Conquest 1.805.5X x 38mm, 1 inch tube,would be a great set up and the Ruger 300 AAC with the Leupold Freedom might be my next two rifles....humm....

Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 02:46:31 PM
bo- how in the world do you sleep at night w/ all those important decisions to make. --099-780 i love it

i know  some guys w/ a 'pile of guns' but i don't think i know anyone w/ a 'pile of scopes'. @--0--0105 now i do

enjoy
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 08:26:02 PM
Bo - which Ruger rifle are you contemplating? 

The 6.5 Grendel is a stronger performer than the .300 at a distance but I hear lots of people really happy running suppressed AR's with subsonic .300 BO ammo on nighttime hog hunts.   That combo of the CZ with the Zeiss scope and 6.5 Grendel sounds like a good match though - just depends what you wanna shoot with it.
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 08, 2019, 11:39:01 PM
Yari - And don't forget the pile of binoculars (17 pairs), rangefinders (6) and spotting scopes (7).... --099-780

My wife just shrugs her shoulders and shacks her head  That blank stare I get from her when I start talking about my next rifle set up combo.....she said when I pass that she is just going to close the gun room door and not do anything for 6 months.....I see her point in a lot of ways....I tell her that they might spawn you never know!! I will turn 70 this year and think that I have a good 10 years left but who knows, only God knows how much longer do I have....

You should see the Spreadsheet that I have put together with all the info on it and I back it up twice as part of my daily process....think her daughter and her hubby will step in and help her.....do have a lot of "stuff" in the gun room.....piles and piles of stuff.... --099-780

Mad - Thinking about the Ruger American the short 16.5" barrel. They and Remington make both the 6.5 Grendel and the 300 AAC in their bolts rifles....have search and search for the 6.8 SPC II bolt action and could not find one...just the AR uppers....I do have a 6.8 SPC II custom built AR rifle, only took it to the range twice and it seems to like the 110 Gn bullet the best....the 120 Gn is OK results....late last year - one week I shot the 110 for a week and then the 120 for the next week with the 110 shooting the best but nothing like long term trips to the range that will prove it over time....

Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 15, 2019, 06:13:14 AM
Looking at the ballistics for both the 6.5 Grendel and the 300 AAC Blackout calibers....I was thinking of getting a Remington or Ruger in the 300 AAC or the CZ 527 in the 6.5.....so for now am not doing nothing but got to do something before Oct 1st because that is when the tax laws change in Tennessee!!

Which one would you (anybody get)....the 6.5 Grendel of the 300 AAC...for 200 yards and in for deer....
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 15, 2019, 04:12:07 PM
Grendel, unless you want to shoot suppressed.
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on August 15, 2019, 07:27:05 PM
That is what I am thinking and the Grendel will be much flatter than the 300 AAC...not sure on which one to buy....no suppressor....
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on November 27, 2019, 07:23:18 AM
When I was looking at scopes to mount on the Mossberg, the Response was one of the ones I was considering, but I was thinking that it is too high quality of a scope to mounts on the Mossberg....it is still unmounted today.....maybe I will get another 308 or the Savage 220 that I plan on getting and put it on one of them....it is a very nice scope....
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on November 27, 2019, 08:42:40 AM
agreed. one of the guys I was in SD with, his entire group uses savage 220's. 8-9 hunters in one group and they really like them
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on November 27, 2019, 07:46:25 PM
Yari - I own a old BPS with a slug barrel and mounted on top is a Nikon Prostaff (3-9X x 40mm, 1 inch tube) scope. This combo is very accurate, but this is a 12 gauge that will rock my world ever time I shoot it.

That is good to know that everyone is using Savages 220!! 
Title: Re: TRACT Optics - Response Rifle Scope
Post by: [Blocked] on December 10, 2019, 06:14:40 AM
Guys - Still have not put the TRACT Response on a rifle yet, the Cooper M52 and M22 in 7x57 both have Zeiss Conquest on them...so I'm not going to change out scopes. Took them down with me for the Thanksgiving hunt and use both the M22 which is the single shot and the M52 which is the repeater and got a chance to hunt with both of them while in GA....both are great scopes, one is a 1.8-5.5X x 38mm and the other Zeiss on M22 is a 3.5-10X x 44mm.....

Don't get me wrong, the Response is one heck of a scope and it is still on top or near the top of the scope pile...