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Tools of the Trade => Management Practices & Food Plots => Topic started by: NWIAdeerhunter on April 14, 2019, 10:41:24 PM

Title: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 14, 2019, 10:41:24 PM
Was wondering what everyone does for seeding plots. For years I've been just broadcasting and dragging with an old drag section.  I have an old JD 7000 4 row that I've used to plant soybeans the last couple years but am limited on just planting beans and corn.  Have been looking at the woods precision super seeders a lot lately, they are an all in one with a disc gang on the front, spiked roller in the middle and cultipacker on the back.  Can plant multiple seeds at once at different depths too.  Was just curious what everyone else does. I'm getting to big for the four wheeler broadcast spreader.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 15, 2019, 07:51:38 AM
I'm nlot going to be much help on this post.  I use an over the shoulder bag seeder for small seed (turnips, clover, alfalfa, etc.) and a 3 pt. cyclone spreader for oats.  I have been thinking about a grain drill, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.  The above two methods seem to work fine for me.  Plant it just before a rain and hit with cultipacker seems to work well.  Keep us posted on what you decide to go with.  You must be planting a lot of food plots, how many acres are you planting total?
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 15, 2019, 09:37:26 AM
I use a little hand crank spreader for tiny seeds (and small patches) and my ATV spreader for the bigger stuff.  I generally spread and run a cultipacker over it or drag then cultipack depending on the type of seed.  I also have an old Ferguson Yardmaker that has both a seed box and fertilizer box and a pair of spiked rollers on it that can be filled with water, so it can seed, fertilize, and pack all in one pass.  I haven't used it in years, but did some horse pasture mix with it (alfalfa & grass) on a couple of acres here when we built the house and then on the lawn too.  It works well but most of my plots are small enough that it's just not worth messing with.  For a bigger operation it would be getting much more use.  It's a little over 6' wide, operates like a drop spreader, doesn't have the individual drop tubes like most drills would have.

Would love to find some old ground driven row units like Deere 71's or IH 185/295's that I could bolt on a tool bar and make a 3-4 row planter for sunflowers & corn, but those things are bringing crazy money these days.  Wasn't too long ago those were being sold for scrap, now it's hard to find a single row unit at all, as guys are building small plot planters & selling them for big bucks.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 15, 2019, 02:17:24 PM
I do the same thing as you. I have a buddy that just bought a drill for 6K. I think I will stay w/ what I've been doing. @--0--0105
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 16, 2019, 06:46:21 AM
I'm nlot going to be much help on this post.  I use an over the shoulder bag seeder for small seed (turnips, clover, alfalfa, etc.) and a 3 pt. cyclone spreader for oats.  I have been thinking about a grain drill, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.  The above two methods seem to work fine for me.  Plant it just before a rain and hit with cultipacker seems to work well.  Keep us posted on what you decide to go with.  You must be planting a lot of food plots, how many acres are you planting total?

If I have to replant the two clover plots right now I would be at around 12 to 15 acres and thats with one farm not having any which I have to do some work on it first to figure out where I want to plant one. My biggest problem is time. Last fall with the equipment I have it took me almost a day and a half to work about 4 acres of ground with the tiller, seed and fertilize everything, and drag it to cover and pack the ground back down. 
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 16, 2019, 01:53:17 PM
Oh man, that is a lot of groceries!  I checked out the Woods implement you were talking about, I didn't realize how expensive they were.  If you get one, send some pics of it in action.  It seems like it would cut down on a lot of tractor time.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 16, 2019, 04:36:07 PM
that is a lot of planting. can you borrow a seeder from a local guy? a field that big could use decent size planters
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 16, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
That's a good thought - our local Pheasants Forever group has a drill that they loan/rent out for food & habitat work - - not sure if they'd only do it on the condition of planting stuff for pheasants vs. deer??
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 19, 2019, 09:47:12 AM
i used a JOHN DEERE PULL BEHIND SPREADER  WORKS ALONG AS IT IS DRY
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 10:20:50 AM
well I went ahead and purchased one, woods pss72. got the dealership to knock some off and to even go pick it up from another dealer instead of direct from factory, that was going to take until may 28 to show up and I want to get the beans in way before that.  Haven't picked it up yet but will post a pic or two when I do.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 10:53:17 AM
That's a really nice piece of equipment, should work great for you!
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 12:39:21 PM
WOW, very nice planter. from what I see, it's an all in one planter? you will have to let us know how you like it. I normally have to disc my plots 2-3 times before I will plant

CONGRATS
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 04:19:40 PM
OH BABY!  Looks like you pulled the trigger.  That is a honey!  She should work great and cut a lot of seat time off your schedule.  Cant' wait to see pics of it in action.  What tractor are you pulling it with?
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 05:03:02 PM
OH BABY!  Looks like you pulled the trigger.  That is a honey!  She should work great and cut a lot of seat time off your schedule.  Cant' wait to see pics of it in action.  What tractor are you pulling it with?

Gonna pull it with my 4720, I have the front ballast with the loader, tractor is 66 engine hp with MFWD so should have no problem pulling it.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 05:05:35 PM
WOW, very nice planter. from what I see, it's an all in one planter? you will have to let us know how you like it. I normally have to disc my plots 2-3 times before I will plant

CONGRATS

It is an all in one planter and am supposed to be able to plant two different seeds at once at two different depths. A buddy of mine has a brillion one and he likes his, no matter what though on virgin sod ground will still have to hit it with a disc at least once or twice to break it up.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 05:34:09 PM
it will be at least june before beans go in at my place. maybe 3 weeks around here
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on April 28, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
Just drug the cultivator through one of my plots this afternoon, ground didn't work too bad.  Need to do my homework tonight and figure out my plan for all the plots this year.  I'm thinking I'll sow chicory in the one I worked today, it had Powerplant in it last year.  Might shift gears though and do some clover.  Having the two-seed capability that you have on that rig would definitely be useful.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on June 01, 2019, 10:34:25 AM
Well I keep forgetting to take a picture of it, but I did get to use it a couple weeks ago to plant soybeans and hit some weak spots in my clover plots.  when you actually look at it and see it in person you can tell right away the thing is built like a tank and fairly compact which I like since there are some tight spots getting to one of my clover plots deep in the timber.  It worked quite well considering how wet the ground was when I planted my buddy's plots and mine, his were flat ground and mine is east sloping hill so mine was drier then his.  Got everything planted by saturday at 4 so everything has been in the ground a week and got basically 3 days of off and on rain from monday through wednesday.  now its heating up so conditions are perfect growing weather.  Will be excited to check out my stand but am thinking will be good.  seeded the beans at around 80 to 90 lbs per acre.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on June 01, 2019, 04:49:54 PM
wow, i'm surprised you got it in as wet as it has been. good for you. this week should be prefect to get it started. send pics w/ the progress.

did you do ag beans or forage beans?

nice work
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on June 02, 2019, 10:56:36 PM
wow, i'm surprised you got it in as wet as it has been. good for you. this week should be prefect to get it started. send pics w/ the progress.

did you do ag beans or forage beans?

nice work

I do ag beans. My neighbor works at a fertilizer seed plant and hes the main seed guy there so he gets me some free bags of last years plot seed that he cant sell and normally would just get thrown away, cant beat the price and then I can spray with roundup during the year to keep it clean.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on June 03, 2019, 09:37:25 AM
wow, i'm surprised you got it in as wet as it has been. good for you. this week should be prefect to get it started. send pics w/ the progress.

did you do ag beans or forage beans?

nice work

I do ag beans. My neighbor works at a fertilizer seed plant and hes the main seed guy there so he gets me some free bags of last years plot seed that he cant sell and normally would just get thrown away, cant beat the price and then I can spray with roundup during the year to keep it clean.

perfect. that's a win win. RR beans are nice

do you figure 50-60% germination on year old beans? i got some year old forage beans that were terrible last year. almost no germination. but, they were stored in a hot shed. i think that was the main problem. i think he cooked them

good luck
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on June 04, 2019, 07:40:54 AM
wow, i'm surprised you got it in as wet as it has been. good for you. this week should be prefect to get it started. send pics w/ the progress.

did you do ag beans or forage beans?

nice work

I do ag beans. My neighbor works at a fertilizer seed plant and hes the main seed guy there so he gets me some free bags of last years plot seed that he cant sell and normally would just get thrown away, cant beat the price and then I can spray with roundup during the year to keep it clean.

perfect. that's a win win. RR beans are nice

do you figure 50-60% germination on year old beans? i got some year old forage beans that were terrible last year. almost no germination. but, they were stored in a hot shed. i think that was the main problem. i think he cooked them

good luck
they say the germ goes down on them after a year and maybe it does but last years bean plot looked like a good solid stand that any farmer would be happy to have in their field. not to say some didnt germinate but I would guess I still had a 90 to 95% germ.
Title: Re: seeders
Post by: [Blocked] on June 04, 2019, 10:57:21 AM
wow, that a great germ rate for this years beans!

like i said, i think mine got baked last year